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Hi Theresa, welcome to Wikipedia! Be warned, it is highly addictive. There are lots of resources around by way of help and guideline pages, but it can take a while before you find the one you want. Wikipedia:Naming conventions and Wikipedia:Manual of Style are handy, then there is Wikipedia:Help and you can always ask at the Village pump. Don't be afraid of making the odd mistake, there are any number of others eagerly waiting for a chance to correct it!

Need to know anything, just ask. Hope to see you stick around!

Best - Tannin 08:28 Feb 12, 2003 (UTC)

Redirects start with a hash "#" -- Tim Starling 11:59 Feb 13, 2003 (UTC)

I tried that but I kept getting a numbered list instead. Theresa knott
That's because after you create a redirect, you get sent to a page with the string "&redirects=no" in the URL. This is a "feature" put in the software to confuse newcomers.
To see your redirect working, use your address bar to delete that part of the URL. BTW, I've reformatted your talk page slightly to show you how talk pages are usually done – more indenting and not so many HRs. Oh, and by the way, welcome to Wikipedia :) -- Tim Starling 12:41 Feb 13, 2003 (UTC)
I see. So if I ever want to get rid of a redirect I can add that sring to the url in order to edit the redirect out? Theresa knott
If you click on a link and find yourself redirected to another page, at the top it will say (Redirected from .....) If you click on the link you will be taken to the page with "&redirects=no" in the URL, and then you can edit it. Mintguy
To edit a redirect, use the "What links here". If you go to a redirect page from there, you'll get the "nolink" code in the URL -- Tarquin 23:07 Feb 13, 2003 (UTC) wikipedia:Redirect

Hi Theresa. As an ex-chemist, I was impressed by the Benedict's article. Do yopu have list page that points to similar items? jimfbleak

Thanks! I don't really have a list page yet because there aren't enough similar items but the links from school science technician contain some similar articles written by myself or collegues of mine. Theresa knott

Hi there Theresa. I notice you have been adding some great articles on science experiments. You might also be interested in another project which is aiming to put together a free science textbook, at http://www.renaissoft.com/april/cgi-bin/wiki.pl . It's much like Wikipedia but taking a textbook style approach rather than our encyclopedia style of writing. Enchanter

Thanks I'd definately like to contribute, although from a first glance I can see that it's really early days!.

Hi Theresa, the How to draw a diagram with Microsoft Word is really nice. However, we usually don't have "Howtos" on the Wikipedia, as this is not encyclopedic content. There's a HowTO wiki project at [1], if I remember correctly. --Magnus Manske 13:02 Mar 24, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the link but there are already plenty of how to pages on wikipedia. See How to and Wikipedia:How-to.

[[Image:Oscillascope diagram.png]] ought to be corrected to [[Image:Oscilloscope diagram.png]], but I don't know if a regular page move will move the picture, too. You want to do this, in case you need to just upload it again with the correct name? -- John Owens 07:59 Apr 2, 2003 (UTC)

I don't think it's really necessary. The article has the correct spelling, and this way it's unlikely that any will accidentally upload an image with the same name as this one Theresa knott 08:36 Apr 2, 2003 (UTC)

Lime refering to calcium, ETYMOLOGY: Middle English lim, from Old English lim, birdlime.

Does that help? -- RTC 08:13 Apr 3, 2003 (UTC)

Yes a bit. Thanks Theresa knott

The formatting at User:Theresa knott/sand box looks fine to me. Tuf-Kat

I like what you're doing over at Wikipedia:How to keep image file sizes as small as possible. Thanks for that page! -- John Owens 15:16 Apr 24, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment. If I can keep others from making the same mistakes as I have then I will be happy.Theresa knott 15:32 Apr 24, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Theresa, you are right about ultimate fate of the Universe; it was an error from my part, but saying that I changed it endless seems somewhat exaggerated: if I remember correctly, I changed it only one time, yesterday. -- Looxix 20:54 Apr 28, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Theresa! I wanted to thank you deeply for your contributions to the Simple Science Wiki, and to apologize for my non-responsiveness there for some time - because of work and other duties, I was unable to give it the attention it deserves. I hope you'll still be interested! -- April 20:52 May 7, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Theresa, thanks for reading my seismometer article. I'll have to work on my 'universal reference frame' I meant that the mass stays stationary with respect to the 'universe' and the earth moves. I think I picked that up in an 'Einstein for Idiots' book, maybe. ps. I'd use my real name if I wasn't working as a real earthquake expert for a nuclear power plant company. Zeizmic 17:55 22 May 2003 (UTC)

I've added angle of attack. Well spotted!

Regarding Wikipedia:How to keep image file sizes as small as possible - you're absolutely right, I got there from the Village Pump page. I must admit, I wondered why none of the stuff I mentioned was covered there :) Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Be glad to help out with the real metapage. -- Wapcaplet 21:00 30 May 2003 (UTC)

Dear Zoe, Dear Theresa, please appologize, I never wanted to hurt anybody, I did not mean it this way. I lost, nobody took my cause. We had just some troubles endorsing the wikipedia in schools and for teacher and endorsing it with a funding possibility (like we did once with fishbase.org ). It was just a suggestion from an anonymous user account, which are anyway reverted immediately routinely. I could have understand the ado if I would have used my sysop power, which I always used only on owr own stuff. I still think it would be good to have some balance (for example was the fish article tiny compared to the plenty we found on the pages we suggested for an edit, and if images than of both gender would be fair. Good luck with the fine project wikipedia

from Uwe Kils ("sailor")Kils 15:20 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed that you uploaded an image called Image:Vikingship.jpg but did not link it to any article. Which is a bit of a shame as it's a nice image. It seems to me that it could go on the viking article as long as there was some explanation of what the image was, i.e. who painted it, when, etc.

Also when uploading an image you really should put some copywright information on the description page. If you took the photo yourself say so, or if you know who took the photo and they gave your permission to give it to wikipedia, say that. Theresa knott 11:01 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Hey Theresa!

Thank you very much for your communication. You must be a very stark soul to take up communication with the uncivilized wiki-Vikings amounst the battle and storm raging on the seas around us. But we saw that already when you stepped in as the devil's advocat for us, repeating what we really said we do. There once was a link to the viking ship, on an article we created to explain those worriers where we come from, what we do and who is sailing with us.


There was also a beautiful picture (of which we do have the copyright), showing two of us warriors on the beach of what was called vineland in the Old Days when our grand grand ... grandmother Freydis took the American coast for the Norse (what some stuck and stupid aristrocrat British coined Vikings). But then our parents got nervous and said, the Web is a too dangerous place for us girls andtoddlers to crusade on and recommended this image to be put up for election for deletion by the group. But just wait, once we are grownups we will be back with our face visible.

Regarding the viking ship image Image:Vikingship.jpg there erupted a fight amoungst us vikings on the copyright copyleft no copyright issue. Our head viking (chief) ruled: Proove it who has it and we will publish it again. He ordered to flag the page down, so nobody can find the image (no wiki-link to it, only experts and insider can spot it). Because good crew obey instantly under battlestation we let go of our project for the moment. But as soon as we reach a quiet harbor again, we will make a beautiful picture of one of our ships and upload it again for approval by another captain. (Or we leave the ship - every viking has that right when the ship is tied to the pier). We are sorry that some took this as sign of weakness and called us chicken.

We are very courious to enter the world of the adults and all of your Stark Tobak and explore all you know (better describes the German word Neugierde ("thirst, quest for new"), but our father is afraid we might cut ourself again deeply if we use his sharp weapons and knowledge too early ([Toddler] in our enzyclopaedia means: "child which has just learned to walk").

Anyway, we are getting carried away here, we respect you because you helped us in times of war and consider you as a friend. When you see our ship at bay we invite you to join our crew and try sailing with us - you seem to be of the Freydis-Type. You might pass the tests of our chief to becomme a member of our rank {warrior]] (which we are not yet). To do this just add your Christian name or battlename on our ship on


as a hint of support - moin moin from the Vikings 13:34 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

May we cite you from your userpage: "Don't be afraid of making the odd mistake, there are any number of others eagerly waiting for a chance to correct it!"

That is what we did, but the storm raging up and many unfair fighting and rude language was what we got - that made our chief thinking - but we are not leaving the ship yet - hey across the ocean to beautful England (we have been there) - your Vikings 14:24 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

BTW, I opened you a rin account on Juuitchans bank, and deposited 600 rin on it. The rationale can be found at the bottom of the wikimoney page, where the fulfilled requests are listed. Cimon Avaro on a pogo stick

Many thanks Theresa - I wasn't expecting the sand as well jimfbleak 15:04 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Just passing through on an obsessive quest to remove links to disambiguation pages ;) Regards -- sannse 08:48 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)


My two cents at respiration user:anthere

Why "Bucket in the sand.png"? There's no bucket in the picture, just a shovel. ;) -- John Owens 21:48 9 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I think I've done something stupid and unintentionally reverted to bucketless version. I can't sort it out to get it back now it's all this sand.... jimfbleak 08:42 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)
The first with-bucket version was saved as 8-bit RBG, that's probably why it got a bunch bigger. Going to an 8-bit indexed trims it a little bit, but not much; but I'm sure it would look just fine with considerably less than 256 colours. -- John Owens 09:34 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the tips, I'll try to change the file type to .gif and upload again. But.... how do I get rid of the old file in .jpg? Also, where is the description page for the image? Do you mean the talk page? I did take the photo, should I write something like "Copyright 2003, M. K. Rose, Used with Permission"? Thanks again! Mick 00:33 14 Jun 2003 (UTC)

More image talk: I was thinking this might fit in at Wikipedia:Image use policy, or it might not, so I figured I'd try it out on you first. What would you think of a suggestion that the description page ought to (ideally, but realizing it's hardly going to always happen) include the size (pixels, not bytes) of the image, or at least its width? Every time I'm changing someone's <table> to a <div>, I end up clicking on that picture to bring up the Image: page, then click on the link there to open up the picture itself where my browser will then tell me (in the titlebar) what its width and height are. On a friend's computer, I can't even do that; IE doesn't seem to have a handy way to indicate the dimensions. So, for instance, on Image:Bucket in the sand.png, there would be a line saying "216 x 147 px", or maybe "216 × 147 px" if you want to get fancy. And then maybe I could really boost my edit count by going through and adding it to huge quantities of images. ;) What do you think? -- John Owens 10:48 16 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Congratulations, you have just been made a sysop! You have volunteered for boring housekeeping activities which normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops basically can't do anything: They cannot delete pages arbitarily (only obvious junk like "jklasdfl,öasdf JOSH IS GAY"), they cannot protect pages in an edit war they are involved in, they cannot ban signed in users. What they can do is delete junk as it appears, ban anonymous vandals, remove pages that have been listed on Votes for deletion for more than a week, protect pages when asked to, and help keep the few protected pages there are, among them the precious Main Page, up to date.

Note that almost everything you can do can be undone, so don't be too worried about making mistakes. You will find more information at Wikipedia:Administrators, please take a look before experimenting with your new powers. Drop me a message if there are any questions or if you want to stop being a sysop (could it be?). Have fun! --Eloquence 23:05 17 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Well-deserved too, IMHO, jimfbleak 05:36 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Even more deserved now I've nicked a copy of your welcome page! jimfbleak 14:56 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Your more than welcome to use it (pun intentional though not very funny). As is anyone else, though please don't forget to substitute your own talk page under "if you need help" {I like helping newbies, but only a couple at a time}Theresa knott 15:27 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I've probably got a similar amount of maths education to you, but I've seen that sort of rubbish before. In the neutrosophy area, to be precise. It's sometimes hard to tell the difference between technobabble and deliberate obscurity, but I'd rather err towards skepticism. -- Tim Starling 13:55 20 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Re photo images. You said: People generally do not bother to put copywrite info on such images. We should not have to guess or run around searching if there is another image somewhere else. And, the image may or may not be an exact duplicate. Courtesy and cooperation and User:Jtdirl and User:Brion VIBBER say that all images must have the copyright detail. And, if you do not do as User:Jtdirl says, he is allowed to curse and swear at you. Thank you for your cooperation. ChuckM 11:44 27 Jun 2003 (UTC)

You want to tell JCarriker (Talk) why replacing Image:US regions.gif with Image:US regions.jpg is a bad idea? You can start off with one being 29k, the other 10k. ;) I'm about to hit the sack, so I couldn't keep up a conversation if one were needed, and I trust you to know the issues with that. -- John Owens 11:53 27 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Hmm, might want to bring up the issue of claiming that TX and WV are always considered Southern states while we're at it... maybe check other recent regional edits. -- John Owens 11:55 27 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I know maps should be .PNG. I have been having problems with this one and saved it, incorrectly, as .jpg. I was replacing the previous map (saved as .png) that I had made a spelling error on. I also spelled Purnululu incorrectly when I named the file. I also lost the image 3 times when I was editing it. I am fed up with it and will fix it when I get back from Western Australia in 2 weeks time, when I hope to bring back some pictures of the park. If you feel inclined to fix it my absence I will be gratefu Tiles 05:23 28 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I'm back. Purnululu National Park is a wonderful area and I have now located it with .png image Tiles 05:06 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I apologize for my earlier ,jpg mistake I have no others means of up loading images andwould be grateful if any one can help me change the files. Until then I have also deleted the Old Courthouse .jpg on the Marshall, Texas Article. I have not yet finished composing the history and it stops at a rather ignominious period.

In response to John Owens’ queries about my changes to the U.S. regions files, West Virginia was already colored red in the original .gif map, so I placed it as a southern state in the list. Texas is my home state and I live in a hilly, swampy, forested area, where humidity seldom drops below 60%. This geography known as the “Piney Woods” spreads as far east as Corsicana and as far south as Conroe. From Denton to Killeen is a fertile rolling plain, and the area around Fredericksburg and Kerrville is known as the “Big Hill Country.”

Three cities Dallas, Houston, San Antonio have populations of over one million, two more cities (El Paso, Austin) have populations over 500,000. In Northeast Texas, a predominately rural area where there are no “big cities,” the population is over 1.2 million. A population more than half that of New Mexico but in an area slightly smaller than that of New Hampshire and Vermont combined.

Mexican influences are growing but are still only a small plurality in the eastern part of the state. The strong Native American influence in the southwest does not occur in Texas where there are only two Native American reservations.

Texas simply does not fit the description of a southwestern state, and this was my reason for shifting it to the South. JCarriker

Thanks for the advice on creating draft pages. Your message included the acronym YMMV. What is that? David Thrale 13:49 2 Jul 2003 (UTC)

This is a work in progress. Everything but the first paragraph is cut and pasted. If you know of something LaGrange did, then add it in. Also, some argue that the MTV is the most important theorem in calculus. Pizza Puzzle

Hi Theresa. I've finally got round to playing with drawing in Word. A really, really stupid question. When I save, the choice is all wp formats. How can I get my works of art to be .png? instead of .doc? thanks, Jim

(later) I've read your "How to ..." page, so now I know - you think of everything.

Good MS Word drawings![edit]

Like your drawing @ Test tube. Clear and to-the-point. Would love to see more illustrations like yours. --Menchi 21:14 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)


A couple of queries you might be able to help me with. I've had my first faltering steps at image creation at Bird and Drift migration, but I ran into a problem with the second one.

I could group the arrows to each other, but not to the map png which I had downloaded from Europe. I therefore opened the map in an image editor, and cut-and-pasted the grouped arrows onto the png. This time the arrows were on a rectangular white box from the original group. In the end, I printed the Word doc, and scanned back in –not an ideal solution. Is there any way I could have made the background transparent when I pasted the arrows into the image editor? (I used Adobe Elements, but I have a version of Photoshop as well if that helps).

Thanks, Jim

You're wonderful, Theresa, thankyou, Jim

Thank you for your support of my admin status. It is truely appreciated. Mintguy 22:21, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Hello Theresa,

I came to wonder whether a mention of Lego Mindstorms might be in place at the school physics / lab tech pages that you've been editing? I guess there should really be a separate page on school technology education, but for the time being the physics page might be the place. What do you think?

Cheers,Wernher 13:10, 24 Aug 2003 (CET)

Hi. Nice to see we haven't lost tyou totally to wikibooks. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 11:53, Nov 3, 2003 (UTC)

No I still pop back here now and then :-). It's nice to see that someone missed me Theresa knott

Hi Theresa,

It's really nice of you dropping me a message on my talk page. As a new member I could use some help and connection around here. Thanks again!


Vyasa 12:06, 7 Nov 2003 (UTC)

You're more than welcome :-) You'll find lot's of the old hands round here are very helpful. Theresa knott

Hi Theresa,

It's nice you're looking for newcomers and dropping messages on their talk pages. But my first wiki-surprise was not that. In the first article I edited, between the time i submitted it and reloaded it, someone had just modified the wording, to become better.

There are a lot of people here ! I find it great when I write a load of old rubbish, and a few days later, as if by magic, it becomes beutiful well written prose.

One thing i don't like is the program automatically uppercasing login names. I really hate it. But then, it couldn't be perfect.

regards, User:coco 7 Nov 2003

Me too, when I created ny user account, I typed it all in lower case. The software then capitalised my first name by left my last name in all lower case. This looks stupid, but never mind. BTW it looks to me like you've manually typed in your ysername and date. The software will do this for you if you type 4 tilds ~~~~ Theresa knott 23:47, 7 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Just being a fly on the wall, T, but you can change that behaviour by setting a "nickname" thingy in your Preferences. It will come out something like theresa knott :) Dysprosia 23:50, 7 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice of you both. Also, note (Dysprosia) that I was refering to you in my first paragraph here.  ;) coco 00:13, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Situation solved, no need to go to undeletion. I like your figures, btw and i always wonder what you could accomplish if you use Corel, or Canvas instead of word. Cheers, Muriel Victoria 09:53, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)

  • I recomend Corel draw, which allows you to do virtually anything, including creating objects by trimming and the likes. I use it almos every day in my official work (geology) and in the wiki family trees. Cheers, Muriel